Thanks for all the great suggestions and links.
It is refreshing to be able to view this subject with a more open mind and without the fear of displeasing the God of the Bible (and the GB!!)
could a creative force be the catalyst?.
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Thanks for all the great suggestions and links.
It is refreshing to be able to view this subject with a more open mind and without the fear of displeasing the God of the Bible (and the GB!!)
could a creative force be the catalyst?.
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Thank you BTS. I was wondering what title was given for this so I could do a search on it. After a quick look at the Wikipedia link I think I may lean towards a Deist rather than a Theist.
That's a great quote Darth Fader "Life finds a way". I love your name too.
It would be reassuring to think that everything happens for a reason, P Sacramento.
Sixofnine, I suppose we will never really know but it is interesting speculating. Where do we go from here is probably a more useful question.
could a creative force be the catalyst?.
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Could a creative force be the catalyst?
about three or four years ago my former "best friend" who is an active jw started coming by my work to eat lunch with me and chat.. in the course of our conversations we had religious discussions.. i posted on the former jwd about these discussions.
i never mentioned his last name, but, i did use his first name.. i honestly never expected anybody to read those posts because of the curse on apostate websites.
but, that was a bit naive, i suppose.. here is what has happened.. .
It could all be a misunderstanding. Unless you speak to him directly you can't be absolutely sure.
May I suggest you try to focus on all the great contributions you've made to this site and not worry about one slip-up.
richard dawkins closes down his free-thinking/free-thought site (www.richarddawkins.net) for 30 days to reconfigure it 'because too many morons were contributing drivel' (he doesn't put it quite like that!
) he is then surprised because those self-same contributors call him everything under the sun (i won't repeat the names flung at him on our ultra -refined boards).
he now wants the site more or less 'peer-reviewed' (by analogy with papers to learned/scientific journals having to be vetted by vips).
I stand to be corrected. I am ignorant as I was one of those who never got to college.
The statement I made about Scientists wasn't even my own. It was from a TV clip of a Professor of Science decades ago, except that he used 50%. I did not mean it to be a serious statement. I thought that was obvious. I made it because I do think someone who is protesting too much 'SOUNDS' as if they have some doubts themselves. Quietly confident is a little more reassuring but they are not so entertaining.
I love science and read and watch as much as I can. I enjoy all the posts on this site, whether extreme view or not, and am fascinated by the debates.
richard dawkins closes down his free-thinking/free-thought site (www.richarddawkins.net) for 30 days to reconfigure it 'because too many morons were contributing drivel' (he doesn't put it quite like that!
) he is then surprised because those self-same contributors call him everything under the sun (i won't repeat the names flung at him on our ultra -refined boards).
he now wants the site more or less 'peer-reviewed' (by analogy with papers to learned/scientific journals having to be vetted by vips).
50 years ago Jehovah's Witnesses were preaching that they were the spokespersons for God. 90% of what they taught has now been proved untrue.
50 years ago some Scientists were acting as if they were God. 90% of what they taught then has now been proved untrue.
I think history is just repeating itself.
understanding jw recruiting concepts can help others to leave.
when i first left jehovah's witnesses (jw's), i was somewhat amused at the sheer amount of anti jw websites out there.
while websites like freeminds.org and jwfacts.com are great, (non hysterical sites that stress fact and presentation over emotional responses), there are at least 5 times as many other sites that act as if you should treat a jw at your door like you would a spreader of the ebola virus.. i don't disagree with the fact that jw's are somewhat dangerous and usually go for the low hanging fruit.
This is excellent information AllTimeJeff.
I've changed my name to avoid confusion. I joined the site as undertheradar and asked for advice a month ago. 'Helping those out, that I put in...'
I was grateful for the advice you gave then, and proceeded with caution, as it hasn't been easy.
I was just wondering where to go from here and your post is perfect timing for me. Thank you.
Good points too WTWizard.
last night, author and ex-christian, john w. loftus debated dinesh d'souza on the topic, "does the christian god exist?".
below is loftus' opening statement.. .
in every single case dineshs response will be pretty much the same.
My happiness exists when I think a certain way.
I create happiness.
I am happy with that.
last night, author and ex-christian, john w. loftus debated dinesh d'souza on the topic, "does the christian god exist?".
below is loftus' opening statement.. .
in every single case dineshs response will be pretty much the same.
Does the scizophrenic LOVE/HATE/LOVE/HATE God of the Hebrew exist? I do not think so.
Does the "God is love" God described in 1 John 4:8 exist? If God is Love, and Love is God, then yes LOVE definitely exists and undeniably is a powerful force.
I love the powerful force that is LOVE.
Darwin killed the IDEA of a Creator God for some.
Who killed Darwin?